Curse

jesh · Nov 17, 2005, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by deolmstead

Well I'm a fan, for its originality if nothing else - it's not a werewolf, assassin or other D2 knockoff that most of the theoretical builds out there are. Reminds me of the frog hunters in the Song of Ice and Fire books (can't remember offhand their name) - but they had magical skills as well.

/signed

Frogeaters or Cronogman, I believe. I love those books. Make sure to put in some greenseer abilities and animal control, in that case.

Pokey The Penguin Lord · Nov 22, 2005, 04:04 PM // 16:04

First off...

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Originally Posted by Perishiko ReLLiK

And oh dear lord, who wouldn't want to play ass the predator?!

I'm not playing with the predator there. period.

MOVING ON!

Before giving my opinion, I would like to point out that I am VERY critical of new ideas and can almost always find something that would make it not work or some aspect that would severely unbalance the game.

Holy crap, this is quite possibly the first suggested class that I want to play. I'm truly amazed by the uniqueness of this idea. While your images make me think of a homosexual Aquaman (wait, wasn't he gay already? nm), I'm really impressed so instead of blatant criticism, I'll offer a few constructive ideas.

#1) In order to keep from stepping on the elementalist's toes, Weather mastery skills should probably work like nature rituals and not do direct damage to enemies but change the conditions of the area for everyone. This would also allow the Retiree(tee-hee) to have skills to make himself immune to the effects and thus make it quite useful as a secondary profession as well. Overall, this attribute line could use a little more development although I think it has serious potential.

#2) Agility seems like it has merit but I think you should try to develop it further. At the moment, it seems sort of like a glorified tactics line. Give it some more definition and be creative/unique.

#3) It would seem to me like both the polearm and the net would be very difficult to use one handed and so much more so if they were used at the same time. Maybe make both of them two handed and give the polearm some defensive skills and the net some offensive skills (like you mentioned barbed net). That would also push players towards developing one skill line or another instead of trying to max everything in order to make the character fully functionable.

#4)Give more info. What are his vulnerablities? What are his counter-classes? How much energy/energy regen does he have? How would his skills work as a secondary profession?

Overall Score: 10/10 under the condition that you keep working on it. This class suggestion has more potential IMO than the rest of them combined. Don't worry so much about the artwork as Anet will do that anyways. Don't feel like you have to come up with particular skills so much as general skill ideas.

Keep up the awesome work.

/sign'd

MSecorsky · Nov 22, 2005, 04:28 PM // 16:28

Brilliant. Well thought out.

Need a couple skills to use the net as a snare too, and a few attack based skills that require the target to be "netted" to work as well.

Haroldo · Nov 22, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52

Just 1 complaint, I didnt think you could hold and use properly a trident or sythe (spelling) with one hand. Unless these weapons are very small, the net would just get in the way

. I like the idea though, just need to change the whole "i can use a trident with one hand" thing

jesh · Nov 22, 2005, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Eh.. it's a spear. Scythe would be overdoing it, but a trident = a spear with 3 prongs. I don't see the big deal.

actionjack · Nov 22, 2005, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Nice Pictures...)

Like the Net... but other attributes seems... patch up? And since I am not very smart, whats a Retardii?

benmanhaha · Nov 22, 2005, 11:40 PM // 23:40

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Originally Posted by Sereng Amaranth

that helmet isn't for a retiarii, its for a scissor (carver)....this image shows 2 retiarii whooping up on 2 scissores

and the original pic of the helmet in question...notice the carver's weapons

my bad, i just searched for the retiarii and that came up. o well

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokey The Penguin Lord

Before giving my opinion, I would like to point out that I am VERY critical of new ideas and can almost always find something that would make it not work or some aspect that would severely unbalance the game.

Holy crap, this is quite possibly the first suggested class that I want to play. I'm truly amazed by the uniqueness of this idea. While your images make me think of a homosexual Aquaman (wait, wasn't he gay already? nm), I'm really impressed so instead of blatant criticism, I'll offer a few constructive ideas.

#1) In order to keep from stepping on the elementalist's toes, Weather mastery skills should probably work like nature rituals and not do direct damage to enemies but change the conditions of the area for everyone. This would also allow the Retiree(tee-hee) to have skills to make himself immune to the effects and thus make it quite useful as a secondary profession as well. Overall, this attribute line could use a little more development although I think it has serious potential.

#2) Agility seems like it has merit but I think you should try to develop it further. At the moment, it seems sort of like a glorified tactics line. Give it some more definition and be creative/unique.

#3) It would seem to me like both the polearm and the net would be very difficult to use one handed and so much more so if they were used at the same time. Maybe make both of them two handed and give the polearm some defensive skills and the net some offensive skills (like you mentioned barbed net). That would also push players towards developing one skill line or another instead of trying to max everything in order to make the character fully functionable.

#4)Give more info. What are his vulnerablities? What are his counter-classes? How much energy/energy regen does he have? How would his skills work as a secondary profession?

Overall Score: 10/10 under the condition that you keep working on it. This class suggestion has more potential IMO than the rest of them combined. Don't worry so much about the artwork as Anet will do that anyways. Don't feel like you have to come up with particular skills so much as general skill ideas.

Keep up the awesome work.

/sign'd

ok, well thanks for the comments. I had planned on reworking some of the skills and such a while ago but this thread kind of died so i let it go. I will get to work on it right away.

and about the pictures, i just wanted to give people a general idea of what the guy would look like.

benmanhaha · Nov 23, 2005, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Ok, im sorry for the double post, but i just wanted to let you people know i have edited the original post, cleaned it up a bit and took some of your suggestions into account. Please tell me what you think of the new retiree(god, now im saying it).

shaken_bake · Nov 23, 2005, 02:48 AM // 02:48

All I have to say is I hope guild wars will seriously consider this class.

I already am looking foward to playing it.

benmanhaha · Nov 24, 2005, 01:45 AM // 01:45

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Originally Posted by shaken_bake

All I have to say is I hope guild wars will seriously consider this class.

I already am looking foward to playing it.

why thank you. I plan to post this on other sites, its nice to see people actually liking a class suggestion for once.

Jaythen Tyradel · Dec 06, 2005, 03:32 PM // 15:32

/SIGNED! X(wahtever it takes to get it implemented)
this is one of if not the best profession ideas I have seen on this board.
Good job!

*goes off to watch discovery channel for ideas*

Aubrey · Dec 06, 2005, 11:14 PM // 23:14

I did a search and didn't find anything that really represents my idea, so here it goes. If it is a repeat, please accept my apology.

I would like to see some different melee weapons included that would deal different damage at medium ranges.

For example: A spear - Would be 2-handed, deal as much damage if not slightly more than hammer, but with limited defensibility and speed. The range could be 12 feet. It would have a very high piercing percentage. This weapon would be very realistic and allow some new options for hand-to-hand combatants as well as tactical situations.

Also, a great-sword or bastard-sword. This would be a 2-handed sword, deal higher slashing damage at the cost of defense and manueverability. Maybe make players not able to run as fast with this weapon equipped or something.

Finally, a poleaxe or polearm. This would be axe-like deep wound damage as well as a medium range (6-8 feet). You could have this weapon have high damage, medium speed, and better defense than spear. But, you could add a 10% knockdown to it and it would make it very effective as well.

The added range of these weapons would give the advantage that an opponent would have to be closer than you to hit you, but be slower and with decreased defense.

I just find the weapon ranges and effectiveness to be slightly unrealistic and force melee to be only nose-to-nose or spell/bow range. I'd like a better mid-range option as well. Most of the effectiveness (especially in PvP) is firmly in the spellcaster's hands. There is very little reward for good battlefield tactics or melee skills.

Just a thought.

actionjack · Dec 06, 2005, 11:32 PM // 23:32

benmanhaha's The Retiarii
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=76800

Aubrey · Dec 07, 2005, 12:02 AM // 00:02

He is talking about a character class. I'm just strictly talking about medium range melee weapons for various classes.

Also, the pictures show a Trident, which is a great idea, but would be very different in fighting style than a spear or true polearm.

Anyway, I just thought I would put a couple thoughts out there for feedback.

PieXags · Dec 07, 2005, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Merged the two threads. Weapons can be discussed here being that they're relevant to a new class, and decent suggestions as a whole.

trebes · Mar 07, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51

decent
needs more skillz and some more general info

Nevin · Mar 07, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05

Interesting art I found... Just ignore the shield and glowy eyes. This is how GW would portray it.

And this is probably what you're looking for.

benmanhaha · Apr 19, 2006, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by Nevin

Interesting art I found... Just ignore the shield and glowy eyes. This is how GW would portray it.

And this is probably what you're looking for.

Oh, haven't checked this thread in a while. But yes, you hit it right on the nose. That is how I pictured the retiarii being portrayed. I think I will add that big picture to the front page.

Goats17 · Apr 19, 2006, 10:44 PM // 22:44

One of the best Concept Classes on this site.

/Signed

quickmonty · Apr 19, 2006, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Since this has been ressurected, and I seemed to have missed it first time around .....

I really like this idea. We could use another, but diversified, melee class.